ha5mvo פורסם מרץ 26, 2006 דיווח פורסם מרץ 26, 2006 http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/s ... 23,00.html
Boeing744 פורסם מרץ 27, 2006 דיווח פורסם מרץ 27, 2006 אפרופו התרסקויות: http://news.walla.co.il/?w=/17/879349 יש שמה קישור לרשימת 100 החברות המסוכנות בעולם
apereg פורסם מרץ 27, 2006 דיווח פורסם מרץ 27, 2006 זה אולי התחיל מתקלת SLAT, אבל מקריאת חומר נוסף ומצפייה בסרטון http://www.bea-fr.org/francais/actualit ... video2.htm אפשר לראות שהקברניט היה בחוסר מודעות מוחלט למצב, והקצין הראשון, שידע מה מצב המטוס התנהג כאילו שהוא לא הולך למות גם כן. קטע מידיעה ב FLIGHT The slat asymmetry would have produced a tendency to roll right, from this point the aircraft began gradually to roll from the crew’s intended left turn into a right turn with progressively steepening bank, reaching 111˚ right wing down at its maximum. During the 1min between the autopilot disengage warning and the aircraft’s impact with the sea, the captain says “Autopilot” four times, seemingly unable to understand why it was allowing the aircraft to turn right. With only 10s to go to impact, the co-pilot exclaims “No autopilot, commander!” בכלל יש ויכוח בין המצרים וארה"ב בנושא מסקנות הועדה, פרטים ב http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/20 ... dings.html מזעזע
ha5mvo פורסם מרץ 27, 2006 מחבר דיווח פורסם מרץ 27, 2006 זה אולי התחיל מתקלת SLAT, אבל מקריאת חומר נוסף ומצפייה בסרטון http://www.bea-fr.org/francais/actualit ... video2.htm אפשר לראות שהקברניט היה בחוסר מודעות מוחלט למצב, והקצין הראשון, שידע מה מצב המטוס התנהג כאילו שהוא לא הולך למות גם כן. קטע מידיעה ב FLIGHT The slat asymmetry would have produced a tendency to roll right, from this point the aircraft began gradually to roll from the crew’s intended left turn into a right turn with progressively steepening bank, reaching 111˚ right wing down at its maximum. During the 1min between the autopilot disengage warning and the aircraft’s impact with the sea, the captain says “Autopilot” four times, seemingly unable to understand why it was allowing the aircraft to turn right. With only 10s to go to impact, the co-pilot exclaims “No autopilot, commander!” בכלל יש ויכוח בין המצרים וארה"ב בנושא מסקנות הועדה, פרטים ב http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/20 ... dings.html מזעזע the transcript: Weather was perfect (excellent visibility, 17 degrees C and a light breeze) when Flash Air flight 604 departed the Red Sea to resort of Sharm el Sheikh for a flight to Paris-CDG with an intermediate stop at Cairo. On board were 135, mostly French, holidaymakers heading home. After takeoff from runway 22L or 22R the plane climbed and manoeuvred for a procedural left turn toward Cairo. With the autopilot engaged and while climbing through 2000 feet, the plane slowly started to bank and turn to the right. The captain noticed something was wrong and ordered to co-pilot to switch off the autopilot. The plane continued to bank to the right until it was in a 90-degree right bank at an altitude of approx. 5000 feet. The Boeing then began to descend until it struck the surface of the Red Sea in an area where the depth is approx. 900 metres. Legenda: FO= First Officer CA= Captain ATT= Attendant ATC= Air Traffic Control EC1= Extra crew 1 EC3= Extra crew 3 MSR227= Egyptair 227, other aircraft communicating whith ATC during the event SV= Synthetic Voice Note: Transcription is picked up just after engine start. 02:32:31 FO: Before start check list completed down to the after start 02:32:58 EC3: Come on fellows 02:33:00 ATT: Close two L please 02:33:07 : (Thump) 02:33:16 CA: We rely on God, thank God, in the name of God 02:33:20 : Sounds 02:33:25 ATT: Attention cabin crew doors in armed position and crosscheck 02:33:30 :Sounds for 47 seconds (may be cockpit door, jump seat and unknown ratcheting sounds) 02:34:08 CA: What is this 02:34:09 FO: In the name of God, we rely on God 02:34:11 FO: Duct pressure decrease start valve open 02:34:14 CA: N two 02:34:25 ATT: Ladies and gentlemen, good morning on behalf of Captain Kheder and his crew members welcome you on board Flas Airlines Boeing seven three seven three hundred proceeding to cairo, during our flight to Cairo we shall cover the distance at fifty minutes and altitude twenty seven thousand feet, you are kindly requested to fasten your seat belts and put back of your seats in full up right position, and observe the no smoking sign during all the flight, thank you 02:34:31 FO: Oil pressure 02:34:48 FO: Approaching forty six 02:34:50 FO: Duct pressure normal start valve closed 02:34:51 ATT: Cabin crew stand by for demo 02:35:06 CA: Number one, we rely on God 02:35:08 FO: Duct pressure decrease start valve open 02:35:10 CA: N two 02:35:16 CA: EGT thirteen, nineteen when it starts again 02:35:21 FO: Approach* 02:35:22 CA: N one EGT ok normal 02:35:27 FO: Max motoring 02:35:30 FO: Oil pressure 02:35:48 CA: Approach forty six start cut out pressure normal start valve closed start cut out 02:36:04 CA: Stabilized 02:36:13 CA: To the line 02:36:14 FO: Electrical 02:36:16 CA: On bus 02:36:17 FO: Pitot heat 02:36:17 CA: On 02:36:18 FO: Anti-ice 02:36:19 CA: On 02:36:19 FO: Air conditioning and pressurization 02:36:21 CA: Packs on, flight 02:36:23 FO: Isolation valve 02:36:24 CA: Auto 02:36:25 FO: APU 02:36:29 CA: Start there in flight no problem whith God's help 02:36:30 FO: Start levers 02:36:32 : * 02:36:33 CA: Idle detent 02:36:34 FO: Ground equipment 02:36:36 CA: Clear 02:36:36 FO: After start checklist completed 02:36:37 CA: Taxiing 02:36:39 FO: Sharm El Sheikh Flash six zero four ready to taxi out 02:36:48 ATC: Six zero four taxi right delta alpha hold short runway two two right 02:36:53 FO: Roger to the right via delta alpha to holding point runway two two right Flash six zero four 02:36:59 FO: Commander delta alpha god willing to the right 02:37:02 CA: God willing 02:37:03 FO: Holding point runway two two right and right side is clear 02:37:06 : Sound 02:37:07 CA: We rely on God 02:37:08 FO: Shocks off zero two three * 02:37:09 : Sound 02:37:09 CA:Is this not operating normally 02:37:10 : Sound 02:37:11 :Sound maybe parcking brake release 02:37:14 FO: One minute past for APU 02:37:16 CA: Off 02:37:18 FO: APU off sir 02:37:18 : (six clicks) 02:37:23 : (engine acceleration sound) 02:37:26 CA: Flaps five 02:37:28 : Thrre sounds similar to flap handle 02:37:30 CA: Rudder right neutral left 02:37:28 : (high thump) 02:37:35 CA: Neutral 02:37:37 FO: Flight control checked 02:37:40 : Two consecutive sounds 02:37:41 CA: Turning to the right 02:37:43 FO: God willing via delta commander 02:37:44 CA: Is this delta 02:37:45 FO: God willing 02:37:49 FO: Straight ahead 02:37:52 : Sound maybe landing light 02:38:01 ATC: Flash six zero four ready to copy 02:38:03 FO: Go ahead sir 02:38:05 ATC: Flas six zero four destination cairo as filed, climb initially flight level one four zero, one six seven three on the squawk 02:38:15 FO:Our clear destination Cairo via flight plan route one four zero initially, one six seven three on the squawk, Flas six zero four and we have total passengers one three five, God willing 02:38:25 ATC: Continue taxi via Alpha line up two two right advice ready for departure 02:38:34 FO: Roger, next vall ready God willing 02:38:37 FO: One four zero initially, one six seven three 02:38:44 CA: Before takeoff 02:38:45 FO: Recall 02:38:46 CA: Checked 02:38:47: FO: Flight controls 02:38:48 CA: Checked 02:38:48 FO: Flaps 02:38:49 CA: Five green light 02:38:49 FO: Stabilizer trim 02:38:51 CA: Five units 02:38:52 FO: Cockpit doors 02:38:54 CA: Ok closed because this door opens 02:38:57 EC1: What do you want 02:38:57 CA: yes because *give why* 02:38:58 CA: No really 02:39:01 FO: Take off briefing 02:39:03 CA: Standard briefing god willing 02:39:04 FO: before check list is completed down to the line God willing 02:39:12 : (Series of sounds) 02:39:55 CA: To the line 02:40:01 FO: Engine start switches 02:40:02 CA: On 02:40:02 FO: Transponder 02:40:04 CA: On 02:40:05 FO: Before takeoff checklist completed down to strobe lights 02:40:07 CA: Completed god willing 02:40:36 CA: Set it on take off ninety and half ...ready for departure 02:40:38: FO: Flash six zero four ready for departure 02:40:46 ATC: Flash six zero four surface wind two eight zero one three knots left turn to intercept radial three zero six, cleared for takeoff two two right 02:40:55 FO: Clear for takeoff runway two two right whith left turn to establisk three zero six Sharm VOR our Flash six zero four clear for takeoff 02:41:01 : one thump (door knock) 02:41:02 CA: It is left turn open the door 02:41:04 FO: God willing 02:41:09 ATT: Cabin is clear 02:41:12 CA: Thank you 02:41:12 FO: Final is clear 02:41:13 : One thump 02:41:15 : Four similar thumps, maybe landing lights 02:41:19 FO: Left turn to establish radial three zero six 02:41:29 CA: Initially one four zero? 02:41:30 FO: God willing 02:41:34 CA: Confirm initially one four zero 02:41:35 FO: And Flash six zero four confirm to the left to establish three zero six 02:41:40 CA: Initial one four zero 02:41:43 ATC: God willing 02:41:44 FO: and initially one four zero 02:41:46 ATC: God willing 02:41:48 CA: We rely on God 02:41:59 : Sound similar to increase of engine r.p.m. 02:42:00 FO: Stabilized sir N one 02:42:10 FO: Takeoff power set speed building up, eighty knots, throttle hold 02:42:11 CA: Eighty knots (one thump sound) 02:42:26 FO: V one, rotate 02:42:33 : One thump similar to gear retraction 02:42:33 FO: ** positive rate 02:42:34 CA: Heading select 02:42:36 CA: Gear up 02:42:36 FO: Ok 02:42:43 CA: Four hundred heading select 02:42:44 FO: Four hundred heading select sir 02:42:48 CA: Level change 02:42:49 FO: Level change, MCP speed, N1 armed sir 02:42:59 FO: One thousand 02:43:00 CA: N one speed two twenty flaps one 02:43:04 CA: Left turn 02:43:05 ATC: Flas six zero four airborne time four four when you ready to the left to intercept three zero six radial report on course, God willing 02:43:11 CA: Left turn 02:43:12 FO: Roger when ready God willing 02:43:18 FO: Left turn to establish three zero six Sharm VOR 02:43:19 MSR227: Sharm Egypt air two two seven greeting 02:43:22 FO: Speed available 02:43:23 CA: Flaps up 02:43:27 ATC: Egypt air two two seven go ahead, greeting 02:43:26 MSR227: Mantaining Flight level one two zero four three DME inbound to Sharm el Sheikh and request descent 02:43:34 ATC: Egypt air double two seven clear sierra hotel mike VOR, visual approach runway two two right pilot discretion descend four thousand feet QNH one zero one one 02:43:35 FO: Flaps up no light 02:43:37 CA: After takeoff checklist 02:43:35 MSR227: How much is the wind sir 02:43:48 ATC: Indicated two eight zero one zero knots 02:43:53 MSR227: Can we use runway zero four sir 02:43:55 CA: Autopilot 02:43:56 MSR227: Right zero four 02:43:58 CA: Not yet 02:43:59 ATC: There is no problem Straight in ILS approach runway zero four left god willing report fuel establish QNH one zero one 02:44:00 FO Autopilot in command sir 02:44:01 CA: Exclamation remark 02:44:02 : Sound of A/P disengage warning 02:44:05 CA: Heading select 02:44:05 MSR227: Straight in approach runway zero four lrft, one zero one, next call full establish Egypt air two two seven 02:44:07 FO: Heading select 02:44:18 CA: See what the aircraft did! 02:44:27 FO: Turning right sir 02:44:30 CA: What? 02:44:31 FO: Aircraft is turning right 02:44:32 CA: AH 02:44:35 CA: Turning right? 02:44:37 CA: How turning right 02:44:41 CA: Ok come out 02:44:41 FO: Over bank 02:44:41 CA: Autopilot 02:44:43 CA: Autopilot 02:44:44 FO: Autopilot in command 02:44:46 CA: Autopilot 02:44:48 FO Over bank, over bank, over bank 02:44:50 CA: OK 02:44:52 FO: Over bank 02:44:53 CA: OK, come out 02:44:56 FO: No autopilot commander 02:44:58 CA: Autopilot 02:44:58 EC1: Retard power, retard power, retard power 02:45:01 CA: Retard power 02:45:02 : Sound similar to overspeed clacker 02:45:04 CA: Come out 02:35:05 FO: No god except... 02:35:05 SV: "whoop" sound similar to ground proximity warning 02:45:06 END OF RECORDING
