Ben Zwebner

ANd all that personal attack.. could have been done in a private message. My problem is not in particualr with this case... who is right or wrong here doesnt really matter to me. I dont use Yardens or Alexs Repaint for the PMDG... my problem lies in the Mannar of postings and how the members of this forum behave and reply, somtimes viciously, hiding behind their own computer screens. perhaps i didnt emphesize that enough. If anyone here wants to insult me, bash me... get their kicks... call me at 0545876616. the forum isnt a boxing ring. and i cant believe that i stooped to that level in my last post and i apologize for it... i thought i was above that behavior, but it looks like i have been dragged down to the level of some people here. and thats the saddest thing.

172... you should have between 6 and 8 quarts

What is freeware gentlemen? why does this community bash and get on the hate train every week? we have alot of immature people in this community and by that i do not mean age wise, but mental immaturity! No one will dispute Yardens tremendous talents... he truly has the gift. however i dont think that He went to a patent Lawyer.. and i dont remember alex selling Yardens product or even taking resposibility for Yardens Repaint... i havent found Alexs file on Avsim yet, but he posted that in the description that the original paint is made by Yarden. he isnt trying to gain glory or appreciation from Yardens work.. so why dont all of you Narrow minded hot air balloons Zip your cry baby mouths for once! it makes me sick! all that Alex did was add logos to the 747 that we all fly.. and why? because it wasnt 100% photoreal... and he gave it a shot... His original post had no disrespect to Yarden. and Yarden... i like you man.. but he didnt steal your work... he added his own little imporvmnet giving you all the credit you rightfully deserve. I understand Alexs feeling about the "Strange behaviour " in= the VATIL community... and its reaching a point where I believe that everyone in here is 4 or 5 year olds!

there was a simimlar case to this one years ago witha laerjet 60. but the learjet flew on auto pilot for about 4 hours till running out of fuel

Lets say that the cabin wasnt pressurized.. and its very possible that it wasnt... where were all the oxygen masks? if not for the passengers, for the crew!, if i'm not mistaken right near the pilots are lovely little masks...and true, he crashed 25NM out of the airport.. the questions is, how far and how high was he when he STARTED to go down?

Just a reminder for the flights this wekend! KEWR-EGLL is tonight at 21:00Z we should have ATC for the OCEANIC EGLL-LLBG tomorow the 6th departure at 11:00Z Anyone and everyone is invited, fly the new PMDG, fly the LDS, Fly a BBJ... it doesnt matter! lets have fun!

Um... when i flew to NY this winter i saw the same thing and he ended up being the head of customer service on the flight...

Happy birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :new-bday:

till what time?

good luck!!!!

BTW, for you controllers, i posted this in the forum of AAVA... i'm not sure how many pilots will be joining... but the more the merrier, EL-AL Israir, Arkia, Sundor... all are welcome foreither or both of these flights!

On friday will be my 22nd Birthday, to celebrate i would like to fly two flights that will take me over the Atlantic: AAVA#3105: KEWR-EGLL- 777-300 (ETE: 7 hours) AAVA#6088: EGLL-LLBG- 777-300 (ETE: 4.5 hours) these flights will be done Online at VATSIM... Any and all pilots are welcomed to join me! (i will be on the company channel as well) I will Depart KEWR on Friday the 5th of august at 21:00Z I will depart EGLL on Saterday the 6th at 11:00Z I hope to see you guys there! p.s. i woulndt mind if anyone would like to provide ATC for my arrival... hint hint hint

Will VATIL and VFS ever make it through? or are they destined to remain in the bonds of endless struggle? who will win? who will lose? Tune in next week, same time, same channel when someone else will post somthing pointless in the forum! To be continued.... I hope not :roll:

Can you feel the love People? Group hug!!!! :mrgreen:

This coming friday? ill do my best to be there! :mrgreen:

May they rest in Peace... the Picture on Nana shows that the plane was 4X-AJM...

this is cute, especially for all you Sar Wars fans http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html

well, all i did was use my little sister as an excuse, i told them it was her birthday and we took "her" to see the cockpit, she wasnt ammused but i was enjoying it!

the A340 is still there, but the only flight that i know of who decided for himself was an Air France who TOLD the controller that he was on apporach for 12

the landings were on rwy12 untill around 14:30 thent he wind got stronger and most of the planes were going to 30... but here and there another one came into 12

Thanks Ohad!!! Now for the next and most important question... Anyone coming by Car from Jerusalem??? I need to be home before Shabat...

if I'm coming from Tel Aviv, how do i get there? can i take the train? or should i take the bus?

Get Well Soon!!!!

Gentlemen! ANd we can hardly call ourselves that after the last posting in the forum... Open your eyes to what is going on around you! Every time a posting is made in the Forum that is not to somones liking, it becomes a shouting match and at most times becomes very insulting and hurtful! We should be ashamed of ourselves to let such a thing happen. EVEN if the original posting was out of place! Are we Grown men and Women or children? (even those who are still in highschool) Why do we resort to name calling and insulting our fellow flyer Why does this become the boxing ring of Egos? What ever happened to the FREINDLY skies???? I beg of you all, lets all be mature about this, even if the posting is not in your liking, do not stoop to such a low level and try to show the other who is boss... i know how it feels to have their feeling hurt by such a thing when i posted somthing with misinformed data a while back and members of this forum bashed me and my name I ask of you, if you wish to reply to this, you are free to do so to my E-mail: Bzwebner@netvision.net.il If we continue this way, the forum will only continue to have negativity.. and here are a few examples without nameing names: אז תעשה לכולנו טובה ואת הדעות הפרמיטיביות שלך תשאיר לעצמך ליקוק תחת שכזה ההחלטה להוריד את הודעתי מהפורום פגעה בי אישית. התגובה שלך חצופה, מתריסה ויותר מהכל - אידיוטית. אני מציע שתפסיק את מההתלהמות חסרת הרסן שלך. חזרת מחו"ל וחזרת לחולל מהומות. מעניין מתי ייכתב פה משהו מבלי שזה יפגע באגו של אחד מכם- מנהלים. מתי תפנימו ולא תגיבו, או שזה לא מכבודכם???? אז למה אתה לא שותק בעצם? Gentlemen... these are just examples from the LAST posting... i could have brought more from the past but sadly theere are too many! these remarks insult, hurt and dishoner the other peope in this forum, from whatever side they may be... ?

tell me what time and is there anyone coming from the jerusalem area i could get a lift with????